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Thursday, August 12, 2010
Punch magazine! 2
Note: Michael Faraday (22 September 1791 – 25 August 1867) was an English chemist and physicist (or natural philosopher, in the terminology of the time) who contributed to the fields of electromagnetism and electrochemistry. (From the wikipedia entry)
in my opinion, this information specially the images that farday had were showing the duality in society. like there were the poor and the upper classes, these images shows what society didn't want to see.
in my opinion these images are showing the differences between social classes and the duality that people had. In the picture of faraday we can see that he is helping but with effort "pain", he is doing a big effort to give the card to this creature, hypocrisy is present in here. and in the first picture we can see that there was no social mobility.
Ma Ëugenia, how do you interpret duality in people, as opposed to society, in this drawing? and, Why is Faraday giving his card to Father Thames? Did you read the small print?
We see how Punch Magazine criticized society by, for example in the first picture, there was the high class, that are represented by the two persons who are stand up, and the low class, that are represented by the people on the floor, people had to get used to their social class. Moreover, in the second picture, it is shown as Giuliana said, the Thame's pollution due to the poor sanitation of those times, and that Faraday gave his card to the river. Maybe with this they wanted to show that although the river was polluted, Faraday would still give it his card.
The Victorian Age was characterised by rapid change and developments in nearly every sphere , in thise case the power of british control and power in those times The British Empire was the largest empire ever, consisting of over 25% of the world's population and area, in the last picture shown we can see that there is a man representing the british empire and the power ad control they had over Africa , thise brought exitment to vicotrian society
In addition, in the small letters we see that it says "and we hope the Dirty fellow will consult the learned Profesor", meaning that Faraday as a chemist and physicist, could do something to fix this problem of pollution.
Maybe duality wasn’t the word but it was hypocrisy, they act at as they were expected to do it. And in the case of Faraday is show this idea of hypocrisy and the difference between social classes because the “learned professor” is helping the “dirty fellow” is giving ideas that they are different because of their appearances.
it can be related to what we have been seeing talking about the picture of the gret stink,people was aware of thise , however for a period of time people continued with their lifes as if nothing really happened not facing the problem ,tipical behaviour of those times
In the first picture it is clearly seen the social clases the herachy between people , in the picture it is shown two people well dressed stand up and other people in the floor , the position of how the people were situated (on the floor represented the medium or lower class compared to the other, and the woman and man stand up, upper class)could support my idea of lack of social mobility and the hideing and repression as the woman is telling kind of "a secret" to the men next to her seeing the people on the floor ,in a certain way "less than them.This as well can reflect how people cared about their reputation and appareance (making reference to the woman and the men that are not on the floor)
THE FIRST CARTOON SHOWS 2 PEOPLE FROM AN UPPER CLASS STARING WITH DISGUST THE POOR PEOPLE, THE CRUDE REALITY THAT SURROUNDS THEM. SO HERE WE HAVE DUALITY. ON ONE SIDE WE HAVE THE UPPER CLASS THAT FOLLOWED STRICT SOCIAL RULES. --------------------------------------------- http://www.aboutbritain.com/articles/victorian-society.asp
The Upper and Upper-Middle Class
From the slightest burp (social ruin if it was heard) to how a gentleman spoke to a young lady, Victorian society was greatly concerned with every aspect of daily life. From the moment the upper class left their beds, their days were governed by do's and don'ts.
The horror of social ostracism was paramount. To be caught in the wrong fashion at the wrong time of day was as greatly to be feared as addressing a member of society by the wrong title.
It was important to know whom you could speak with - especially if you hadn't been properly introduced. For a woman, being asked to dance by a complete stranger could pose an etiquette problem which might have repercussions for days.
Young ladies were constantly chaperoned. To be found alone with a gentleman who was other than family was tantamount to social death. Her reputation would be ruined and her gentleman companion would find himself the object of gossip, and most usually derision.
The established career for society women was marriage - full stop. They were expected to represent their husbands with grace and provide absolutely no scandal. Charity work would be accepted, but only if it was very gentile... sewing for the poor, or putting together food baskets.
Gentlemen had to keep track of when it was proper to either smoke or have a glass of sherry in front of ladies. When to bow and to whom to tip your hat could cause gossip if the wrong decision was made.
Members of Victorian society kept busy with parties, dances, visits, dressmakers, and tailors. Keeping track of what other people in your social class were doing was also a full-time occupation.
THE FIRST CARTOON SHOWS 2 PEOPLE FROM AN UPPER CLASS STARING WITH DISGUST THE POOR PEOPLE, THE CRUDE REALITY THAT SURROUNDS THEM. SO HERE WE HAVE DUALITY. ON ONE SIDE WE HAVE THE UPPER CLASS THAT FOLLOWED STRICT SOCIAL RULES. --------------------------------------------- http://www.aboutbritain.com/articles/victorian-society.asp
The Upper and Upper-Middle Class
From the slightest burp (social ruin if it was heard) to how a gentleman spoke to a young lady, Victorian society was greatly concerned with every aspect of daily life. From the moment the upper class left their beds, their days were governed by do's and don'ts.
The horror of social ostracism was paramount. To be caught in the wrong fashion at the wrong time of day was as greatly to be feared as addressing a member of society by the wrong title.
It was important to know whom you could speak with - especially if you hadn't been properly introduced. For a woman, being asked to dance by a complete stranger could pose an etiquette problem which might have repercussions for days.
Young ladies were constantly chaperoned. To be found alone with a gentleman who was other than family was tantamount to social death. Her reputation would be ruined and her gentleman companion would find himself the object of gossip, and most usually derision.
The established career for society women was marriage - full stop. They were expected to represent their husbands with grace and provide absolutely no scandal. Charity work would be accepted, but only if it was very gentile... sewing for the poor, or putting together food baskets.
Gentlemen had to keep track of when it was proper to either smoke or have a glass of sherry in front of ladies. When to bow and to whom to tip your hat could cause gossip if the wrong decision was made.
Members of Victorian society kept busy with parties, dances, visits, dressmakers, and tailors. Keeping track of what other people in your social class were doing was also a full-time occupation. --------------------------------------------- ON HTE OTHER WE HAVE THE MIDDLE AND THE LOWER CLAS BUT THIS PHOTO SHOWS THE LOWER ONE. ---------------------------------------------
Victorian society did not recognize that there was a lower class.
'The Poor' were invisible. Those members of England who worked as chimney sweeps, ratcatchers, or spent their days in factories had no place in the echelon of the upper class, although their services would be needed from time to time.
The prevailing attitude was that the poor deserved the way they lived. If good moral choices had been made, the poor wouldn't be living the way they did.
The best way for society to deal with the poor was to ignore them. They were 'burdens on the public'.
There were people who cared, however. Unfortunately, in trying to help the lower class, conditions usually did not improve. Workhouses were developed, but the living was horrendous and it was almost better to be back on the street.
Being just too busy trying to survive, etiquette played little part in the poor's daily existence. But that's not to say that pride wasn't available. There was a 'social stigma' to applying for aid, and some families preferred to keep to themselves and figure out their own methods of survival.
Although Poor Laws were put into place, it wasn't until after the Victorian age ended that 'the lower class' was able, through education, technology, and reform, to raise itself, in some cases literally, out of the gutter.
Victorian society could be quite pleasant, but only depending on your financial status. --------------------------------------------- AS A RESULT OF THE CONTRASTS BETWEEN THE UPPER AND LOWER CLASSES, THERE WAS PRATICALLY NO RELATION BETWEEN THEM KEEPING DISTANCE.
THE SECOND CARTOON SHOWS A REPUTABLE PHYSICIST AND CHEMIST GIVING HIS CARD TO TH POLLUTED RIVER SO THAT IT CONSULTS HIM. THE DOCTOR IS FORMALLY DRESSED AS HE BELONGS TO AN UPPER CLASS WHEREAS THE RIVER IS REPRESENTED BY AN UNTIDY AND SMELLY PERSON. THIS SHOWS DUALITY. THE MAN ON THE BOAT POSES ELEGANTLY BUT DOESN'T HIDE HIS DISGUST.
Victorian society did not recognize that there was a lower class.
'The Poor' were invisible. Those members of England who worked as chimney sweeps, ratcatchers, or spent their days in factories had no place in the echelon of the upper class, although their services would be needed from time to time.
The prevailing attitude was that the poor deserved the way they lived. If good moral choices had been made, the poor wouldn't be living the way they did.
The best way for society to deal with the poor was to ignore them. They were 'burdens on the public'.
There were people who cared, however. Unfortunately, in trying to help the lower class, conditions usually did not improve. Workhouses were developed, but the living was horrendous and it was almost better to be back on the street.
Being just too busy trying to survive, etiquette played little part in the poor's daily existence. But that's not to say that pride wasn't available. There was a 'social stigma' to applying for aid, and some families preferred to keep to themselves and figure out their own methods of survival.
Although Poor Laws were put into place, it wasn't until after the Victorian age ended that 'the lower class' was able, through education, technology, and reform, to raise itself, in some cases literally, out of the gutter.
Victorian society could be quite pleasant, but only depending on your financial status.
AS A RESULT OF THE CONTRASTS BETWEEN THE UPPER AND LOWER CLASSES, THERE WAS PRATICALLY NO RELATION BETWEEN THEM KEEPING DISTANCE.
THE SECOND CARTOON SHOWS A REPUTABLE PHYSICIST AND CHEMIST GIVING HIS CARD TO TH POLLUTED RIVER SO THAT IT CONSULTS HIM. THE DOCTOR IS FORMALLY DRESSED AS HE BELONGS TO AN UPPER CLASS WHEREAS THE RIVER IS REPRESENTED BY AN UNTIDY AND SMELLY PERSON. THIS SHOWS DUALITY. THE MAN ON THE BOAT POSES ELEGANTLY BUT DOESN'T HIDE HIS DISGUST.
ANOTHER THEME PRESENT IS HYPOCRISY AS THE MAN IS PRETENDING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT WILL NEVER BE SOLVED AS IN BUREAUCRACY THE IMPORTANT PROBLEMS ARE JUST SAVED IN STATE OFFICES SLEEPING FOREVER. THE THAMES' MAN HOLDS A TEAPOT THAT CONTAINS POLLUTED WATER REPRESENTING THE TYPICAL 5 O' CLOCK TEA CUSTOM. OF COURSE THIS IS AN IRONY.
in my opinion, this information specially the images that farday had were showing the duality in society. like there were the poor and the upper classes, these images shows what society didn't want to see.
ReplyDeleteIn the second picture is shown how the great stink was spread all over London due to the poor sanitation system and Thame's pollution.
ReplyDeletein my opinion these images are showing the differences between social classes and the duality that people had. In the picture of faraday we can see that he is helping but with effort "pain", he is doing a big effort to give the card to this creature, hypocrisy is present in here. and in the first picture we can see that there was no social mobility.
ReplyDeleteMa Ëugenia, how do you interpret duality in people, as opposed to society, in this drawing? and, Why is Faraday giving his card to Father Thames? Did you read the small print?
ReplyDeleteWe see how Punch Magazine criticized society by, for example in the first picture, there was the high class, that are represented by the two persons who are stand up, and the low class, that are represented by the people on the floor, people had to get used to their social class.
ReplyDeleteMoreover, in the second picture, it is shown as Giuliana said, the Thame's pollution due to the poor sanitation of those times, and that Faraday gave his card to the river. Maybe with this they wanted to show that although the river was polluted, Faraday would still give it his card.
Giulianna, your description of the sketch is fine, yet how would you relate it to what we have been seeing?
ReplyDeleteThe Victorian Age was characterised by rapid change and developments in nearly every sphere , in thise case the power of british control and power in those times The British Empire was the largest empire ever, consisting of over 25% of the world's population and area, in the last picture shown we can see that there is a man representing the british empire and the power ad control they had over Africa , thise brought exitment to vicotrian society
ReplyDeleteIn addition, in the small letters we see that it says "and we hope the Dirty fellow will consult the learned Profesor", meaning that Faraday as a chemist and physicist, could do something to fix this problem of pollution.
ReplyDeleteMaybe duality wasn’t the word but it was hypocrisy, they act at as they were expected to do it. And in the case of Faraday is show this idea of hypocrisy and the difference between social classes because the “learned professor” is helping the “dirty fellow” is giving ideas that they are different because of their appearances.
ReplyDeleteit can be related to what we have been seeing talking about the picture of the gret stink,people was aware of thise , however for a period of time people continued with their lifes as if nothing really happened not facing the problem ,tipical behaviour of those times
ReplyDeleteIn the first picture it is clearly seen the social clases the herachy between people , in the picture it is shown two people well dressed stand up and other people in the floor , the position of how the people were situated (on the floor represented the medium or lower class compared to the other, and the woman and man stand up, upper class)could support my idea of lack of social mobility and the hideing and repression as the woman is telling kind of "a secret" to the men next to her seeing the people on the floor ,in a certain way "less than them.This as well can reflect how people cared about their reputation and appareance (making reference to the woman and the men that are not on the floor)
THE FIRST CARTOON SHOWS 2 PEOPLE FROM AN UPPER CLASS STARING WITH DISGUST THE POOR PEOPLE, THE CRUDE REALITY THAT SURROUNDS THEM. SO HERE WE HAVE DUALITY. ON ONE SIDE WE HAVE THE UPPER CLASS THAT FOLLOWED STRICT SOCIAL RULES.
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http://www.aboutbritain.com/articles/victorian-society.asp
The Upper and Upper-Middle Class
From the slightest burp (social ruin if it was heard) to how a gentleman spoke to a young lady, Victorian society was greatly concerned with every aspect of daily life. From the moment the upper class left their beds, their days were governed by do's and don'ts.
The horror of social ostracism was paramount. To be caught in the wrong fashion at the wrong time of day was as greatly to be feared as addressing a member of society by the wrong title.
It was important to know whom you could speak with - especially if you hadn't been properly introduced. For a woman, being asked to dance by a complete stranger could pose an etiquette problem which might have repercussions for days.
Young ladies were constantly chaperoned. To be found alone with a gentleman who was other than family was tantamount to social death. Her reputation would be ruined and her gentleman companion would find himself the object of gossip, and most usually derision.
The established career for society women was marriage - full stop. They were expected to represent their husbands with grace and provide absolutely no scandal. Charity work would be accepted, but only if it was very gentile... sewing for the poor, or putting together food baskets.
Gentlemen had to keep track of when it was proper to either smoke or have a glass of sherry in front of ladies. When to bow and to whom to tip your hat could cause gossip if the wrong decision was made.
Members of Victorian society kept busy with parties, dances, visits, dressmakers, and tailors. Keeping track of what other people in your social class were doing was also a full-time occupation.
THE FIRST CARTOON SHOWS 2 PEOPLE FROM AN UPPER CLASS STARING WITH DISGUST THE POOR PEOPLE, THE CRUDE REALITY THAT SURROUNDS THEM. SO HERE WE HAVE DUALITY. ON ONE SIDE WE HAVE THE UPPER CLASS THAT FOLLOWED STRICT SOCIAL RULES.
ReplyDelete---------------------------------------------
http://www.aboutbritain.com/articles/victorian-society.asp
The Upper and Upper-Middle Class
From the slightest burp (social ruin if it was heard) to how a gentleman spoke to a young lady, Victorian society was greatly concerned with every aspect of daily life. From the moment the upper class left their beds, their days were governed by do's and don'ts.
The horror of social ostracism was paramount. To be caught in the wrong fashion at the wrong time of day was as greatly to be feared as addressing a member of society by the wrong title.
It was important to know whom you could speak with - especially if you hadn't been properly introduced. For a woman, being asked to dance by a complete stranger could pose an etiquette problem which might have repercussions for days.
Young ladies were constantly chaperoned. To be found alone with a gentleman who was other than family was tantamount to social death. Her reputation would be ruined and her gentleman companion would find himself the object of gossip, and most usually derision.
ReplyDeleteThe established career for society women was marriage - full stop. They were expected to represent their husbands with grace and provide absolutely no scandal. Charity work would be accepted, but only if it was very gentile... sewing for the poor, or putting together food baskets.
Gentlemen had to keep track of when it was proper to either smoke or have a glass of sherry in front of ladies. When to bow and to whom to tip your hat could cause gossip if the wrong decision was made.
Members of Victorian society kept busy with parties, dances, visits, dressmakers, and tailors. Keeping track of what other people in your social class were doing was also a full-time occupation.
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ON HTE OTHER WE HAVE THE MIDDLE AND THE LOWER CLAS BUT THIS PHOTO SHOWS THE LOWER ONE.
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The Lower Class
ReplyDeleteVictorian society did not recognize that there was a lower class.
'The Poor' were invisible. Those members of England who worked as chimney sweeps, ratcatchers, or spent their days in factories had no place in the echelon of the upper class, although their services would be needed from time to time.
The prevailing attitude was that the poor deserved the way they lived. If good moral choices had been made, the poor wouldn't be living the way they did.
The best way for society to deal with the poor was to ignore them. They were 'burdens on the public'.
There were people who cared, however. Unfortunately, in trying to help the lower class, conditions usually did not improve. Workhouses were developed, but the living was horrendous and it was almost better to be back on the street.
Being just too busy trying to survive, etiquette played little part in the poor's daily existence. But that's not to say that pride wasn't available. There was a 'social stigma' to applying for aid, and some families preferred to keep to themselves and figure out their own methods of survival.
Although Poor Laws were put into place, it wasn't until after the Victorian age ended that 'the lower class' was able, through education, technology, and reform, to raise itself, in some cases literally, out of the gutter.
Victorian society could be quite pleasant, but only depending on your financial status.
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AS A RESULT OF THE CONTRASTS BETWEEN THE UPPER AND LOWER CLASSES, THERE WAS PRATICALLY NO RELATION BETWEEN THEM KEEPING DISTANCE.
THE SECOND CARTOON SHOWS A REPUTABLE PHYSICIST AND CHEMIST GIVING HIS CARD TO TH POLLUTED RIVER SO THAT IT CONSULTS HIM. THE DOCTOR IS FORMALLY DRESSED AS HE BELONGS TO AN UPPER CLASS WHEREAS THE RIVER IS REPRESENTED BY AN UNTIDY AND SMELLY PERSON. THIS SHOWS DUALITY. THE MAN ON THE BOAT POSES ELEGANTLY BUT DOESN'T HIDE HIS DISGUST.
The Lower Class
ReplyDeleteVictorian society did not recognize that there was a lower class.
'The Poor' were invisible. Those members of England who worked as chimney sweeps, ratcatchers, or spent their days in factories had no place in the echelon of the upper class, although their services would be needed from time to time.
The prevailing attitude was that the poor deserved the way they lived. If good moral choices had been made, the poor wouldn't be living the way they did.
The best way for society to deal with the poor was to ignore them. They were 'burdens on the public'.
There were people who cared, however. Unfortunately, in trying to help the lower class, conditions usually did not improve. Workhouses were developed, but the living was horrendous and it was almost better to be back on the street.
Being just too busy trying to survive, etiquette played little part in the poor's daily existence. But that's not to say that pride wasn't available. There was a 'social stigma' to applying for aid, and some families preferred to keep to themselves and figure out their own methods of survival.
Although Poor Laws were put into place, it wasn't until after the Victorian age ended that 'the lower class' was able, through education, technology, and reform, to raise itself, in some cases literally, out of the gutter.
Victorian society could be quite pleasant, but only depending on your financial status.
AS A RESULT OF THE CONTRASTS BETWEEN THE UPPER AND LOWER CLASSES, THERE WAS PRATICALLY NO RELATION BETWEEN THEM KEEPING DISTANCE.
ReplyDeleteTHE SECOND CARTOON SHOWS A REPUTABLE PHYSICIST AND CHEMIST GIVING HIS CARD TO TH POLLUTED RIVER SO THAT IT CONSULTS HIM. THE DOCTOR IS FORMALLY DRESSED AS HE BELONGS TO AN UPPER CLASS WHEREAS THE RIVER IS REPRESENTED BY AN UNTIDY AND SMELLY PERSON. THIS SHOWS DUALITY. THE MAN ON THE BOAT POSES ELEGANTLY BUT DOESN'T HIDE HIS DISGUST.
ANOTHER THEME PRESENT IS HYPOCRISY AS THE MAN IS PRETENDING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT WILL NEVER BE SOLVED AS IN BUREAUCRACY THE IMPORTANT PROBLEMS ARE JUST SAVED IN STATE OFFICES SLEEPING FOREVER. THE THAMES' MAN HOLDS A TEAPOT THAT CONTAINS POLLUTED WATER REPRESENTING THE TYPICAL 5 O' CLOCK TEA CUSTOM. OF COURSE THIS IS AN IRONY.
ReplyDelete